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	<title>Comments on: book review: codeigniter 1.7</title>
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		<title>By: Steven Wilkin</title>
		<link>http://www.johngirvin.com/blog/archives/book-review-codeigniter-1-7.html/comment-page-1#comment-662</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Wilkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first introduction to web MVC frameworks was with Rails, 3+ years ago. Coming from there Cake seemed quite familiar and I&#039;ve since become quite a fan of &quot;convention over configuration.&quot; Anything that  makes me not have to make a decision, be it how to name my controllers or where my models are located is a win in my book :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first introduction to web MVC frameworks was with Rails, 3+ years ago. Coming from there Cake seemed quite familiar and I&#8217;ve since become quite a fan of &#8220;convention over configuration.&#8221; Anything that  makes me not have to make a decision, be it how to name my controllers or where my models are located is a win in my book :)</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Gibson</title>
		<link>http://www.johngirvin.com/blog/archives/book-review-codeigniter-1-7.html/comment-page-1#comment-661</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used CodeIgniter for TwitLonger. Given that I&#039;m a bit of a control freak over my code, using a framework was quite a big step, so I appreciate that CI does the boring, heavy lifting stuff and lets you get on with the application specific things. As John says, Cake seems to want to be everything to everyone but CI gives you the flexibility to do what you want but with a strong platform to start out with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used CodeIgniter for TwitLonger. Given that I&#8217;m a bit of a control freak over my code, using a framework was quite a big step, so I appreciate that CI does the boring, heavy lifting stuff and lets you get on with the application specific things. As John says, Cake seems to want to be everything to everyone but CI gives you the flexibility to do what you want but with a strong platform to start out with.</p>
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		<title>By: John Girvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Girvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve only ever had a quick look at Cake, but from what I saw I think you could summarise the differences by saying Cake gives you more but CodeIgniter gives you more choice.

For example, CodeIgniter comes with classes for basic database access but doesn&#039;t include a full ORM. However, you can easily use Propel, Doctrine or whatever suits. Cake comes with scripts to generate controllers, models and so on, but CodeIgniter has none of this so you have more flexibility in how you write and structure code. I&#039;m sure there are other similar differences too, but as I&#039;ve said I&#039;m not that familiar with Cake.

Take a couple of hours and have a play with CodeIgniter, it really doesn&#039;t take long to pick up. Cake, Symfony and the rest have their place but for the types of PHP web projects that I undertake I find CodeIgniter is a great solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve only ever had a quick look at Cake, but from what I saw I think you could summarise the differences by saying Cake gives you more but CodeIgniter gives you more choice.</p>
<p>For example, CodeIgniter comes with classes for basic database access but doesn&#8217;t include a full ORM. However, you can easily use Propel, Doctrine or whatever suits. Cake comes with scripts to generate controllers, models and so on, but CodeIgniter has none of this so you have more flexibility in how you write and structure code. I&#8217;m sure there are other similar differences too, but as I&#8217;ve said I&#8217;m not that familiar with Cake.</p>
<p>Take a couple of hours and have a play with CodeIgniter, it really doesn&#8217;t take long to pick up. Cake, Symfony and the rest have their place but for the types of PHP web projects that I undertake I find CodeIgniter is a great solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Wilkin</title>
		<link>http://www.johngirvin.com/blog/archives/book-review-codeigniter-1-7.html/comment-page-1#comment-655</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Wilkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting dissection John. I would love to hear a breakdown of the differences between Cake, which I use in the day job, and CI, which I have *never* used....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting dissection John. I would love to hear a breakdown of the differences between Cake, which I use in the day job, and CI, which I have *never* used&#8230;.</p>
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